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The great monsoon season has extended into West Texas. Adam Black, the former director of horticulture at John Fairey Gardens, among many other things, posted these from the Davis Mountains.
Silene Laciniata
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Agastache Breviflora
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Salvia Arizonica
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Campanula Rotundifolia
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Salvia Arizonica and Linum sp.
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Bavardia Ternifolia
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Silene Laciniata
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Mirabilis Linearis and Salvia Arizonica
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Allium Cernum and Oxalis Drummondii
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Solanum sp.
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He posted great photos of Quercus Hinckleyi on private land. One of only 2 sites in West Texas where it still exists. A relic oak from when the area was much wetter.
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Paul S wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:00 am
That orchid is superb.
Aligator lizard - friend or foe?
Based on the debris under him he looks to be a decent size, they can grow to 16-18”(400-460mm) from what I read. They eat mostly insects but the larger specimen can go after small birds and rodents. That tongue intimidates. Here is their native range per Wikipedia.
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Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:16 pm
More from him. Echeveria strictiflora in the Davis Mountains. The only species briefly north of Mexico.
So I just learned about echeveria strictiflora and was looking into it more since I am always looking for cold hardy succulents (and I am always interested in Texas-native plants).
Websites are saying it isn't cold hardy, which wouldn't be surprising for an echeveria, but knowing the climate out there I assume it actually is cold hardy. I saw on ladybird johnson website someone collected seeds near ft Davis at 5k ft., and then saw a bunch of IDs on inaturalist out there in the area. Looking up record lows at McDonald observatory and I am seeing -10F. That is spectacular for an echeveria, from what I understand about echeverias.
Do you or anyone else know more about it? Has anyone here personally seen how it handles low temps?
If anyone has any and wants to sell/swap plants or seeds of it, let me know please. I think our moisture would be hard on it, but might try growing it in rocks, like abborean has done with some of his succulents.
Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:16 pm
More from him. Echeveria strictiflora in the Davis Mountains. The only species briefly north of Mexico.
So I just learned about echeveria strictiflora and was looking into it more since I am always looking for cold hardy succulents (and I am always interested in Texas-native plants).
Websites are saying it isn't cold hardy, which wouldn't be surprising for an echeveria, but knowing the climate out there I assume it actually is cold hardy. I saw on ladybird johnson website someone collected seeds near ft Davis at 5k ft., and then saw a bunch of IDs on inaturalist out there in the area. Looking up record lows at McDonald observatory and I am seeing -10F. That is spectacular for an echeveria, from what I understand about echeverias.
Do you or anyone else know more about it? Has anyone here personally seen how it handles low temps?
If anyone has any and wants to sell/swap plants or seeds of it, let me know please. I think our moisture would be hard on it, but might try growing it in rocks, like abborean has done with some of his succulents.
Don’t believe what you read on the internet, unless it’s someone’s direct experience on how hardy they are. Most reference websites are worthless, and dry/wet cold tolerance can also be drastically different. I don’t have any first hand experience with them, but would like to.
Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:16 pm
More from him. Echeveria strictiflora in the Davis Mountains. The only species briefly north of Mexico.
So I just learned about echeveria strictiflora and was looking into it more since I am always looking for cold hardy succulents (and I am always interested in Texas-native plants).
Websites are saying it isn't cold hardy, which wouldn't be surprising for an echeveria, but knowing the climate out there I assume it actually is cold hardy. I saw on ladybird johnson website someone collected seeds near ft Davis at 5k ft., and then saw a bunch of IDs on inaturalist out there in the area. Looking up record lows at McDonald observatory and I am seeing -10F. That is spectacular for an echeveria, from what I understand about echeverias.
Do you or anyone else know more about it? Has anyone here personally seen how it handles low temps?
If anyone has any and wants to sell/swap plants or seeds of it, let me know please. I think our moisture would be hard on it, but might try growing it in rocks, like abborean has done with some of his succulents.
Don’t believe what you read on the internet, unless it’s someone’s direct experience on how hardy they are. Most reference websites are worthless, and dry/wet cold tolerance can also be drastically different. I don’t have any first hand experience with them, but would like to.
I am going to put this one high up on My want list. Hopefully will be able to get one and share updates here. Most plants I know of from that area are spectacularly hardy. This has me kind of excited. I am looking to do hybrids with smaller cold hardy succulents like sedums and graptos to hold me over until my agaves get old enough to bloom and hybridize. Potentially having a cold hardy echeveria to throw in the mix opens up more possibilities.
