Hi,
I recently got these guys. I don't know to much about anthurium. Other then all the reading I have done about growing them.

Are these two plant the same Plant? One is light green with white veins and elongated Leaf shape. The other is dark green with white veins and a fatter leaf shap. See photo


Thanks inadvance

They both resemble A.clarinervium to me. BUT that being said.......a lot to hybrid plants are being sold now as species. The sellers either do not know, or do not care that what they are selling are not pure species plants.
This has actually been going on for many years.
I have a few plants that were sold as a species plant that are actually hybrid plants.
Whatever you have, A. clarinervium was definitely a parent, if they are not 'true' clarinerviums.
Anthuriums are very 'promiscuous'. They cross pollinate readily IF the plants are from the same section with the same genetic makeup of chromosomes.
What did the seller say they were when you bought them?

These look identical to the one I purchased from Ecuagenera as Anthurium Crystallinum. I'll upload picture later.

Yes they also look like crystallinum. This is my crystallinum


This is one of my clarinerviums


This is a magnificum


This is a besseae x magnificum

This is a clarinervium x unknown which was a gift from one of the aroid curators at Fairchild Gardens in Miami



All of these are very similar. Hybrids are being sold as species a lot these days.

This is forgettii...you can tell it apart because it has a closed sinus

See I did it too....I meant to say crystallinum in my first post and said clarinervium LOL. This is an interesting hybrid.....clarinervium x Faustino's Giant (who would have thought this would cross?)

I received them from a friend. She said they were to hard for her to grow. She did not remember what they were called. Thabk you for your help😁 if anyone has any good Anthurium book suggestions I would appreciate it.

Gina1960 said:Yes they also look like crystallinum. This is my crystallinum


This is one of my clarinerviums


This is a magnificum
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This is a besseae x magnificum

This is a clarinervium x unknown which was a gift from one of the aroid curators at Fairchild Gardens in Miami



All of these are very similar. Hybrids are being sold as species a lot these days.

This is forgettii...you can tell it apart because it has a closed sinus

Oh wow they are all so beautiful. Your hybrids are amazing the contrast in the leaves is stunning. Do you grow them all in your greenhouse?

Thanks so much for sharing your photos and knowledge☺

Thanks! Yes I grow them in the greenhouse. But many many people grow them in their houses. Some people go to great lengths to grow some of the more unusual ones like Warocqueanum indoors, they set up mini 'greenhouses' in their houses that they can humidify and all sorts of things. Probably the easiest way to give some of these plants the humidity they need indoors is to grow them in a terrarium. But they eventually get so large, unless you have a walk in viv it won;t work long term.

I just saw my Magnificum photo didn;t come up here it is.


All of these plants look similar because they all belong to the same scientific classification section of Anthurium, Cardiolonchium. There are others in this section besides these. But they all have the basic form and veining. Its also why they cross so easily, they are genetically very similar.

I am not really certain that there IS a good book about Anthuriums. The last major scientific revision of the genera was done by Michael Madison in 1977. You can ind his paper online. Dr. Thomas Croat at MOBOT is probably the most contemporary authority on them, he was working on a revision but I am not sure where that is now.

The basic knowledge about Anthurium is that each species belongs in a section, and each section is made of plants with the same basic morphological characteristics, growth habits, etc. They also have the same genetic makeup pretty much. Some species in differing sections will cross, if they are genetically similar enough, some will not. And some species within the same section will not cross with other members of that section if they are growing in different countries. It has been found that some plants growing in Mexico and plants growing in more South America in the same section will not cross.

This is one of my older plants that I grew out from seed. I have a bunch of these, all are pretty huge now. I gave several away and traded some when they were small enough to mail, it would be impossible now. One went to the guy from Fairchild who gave me the cool crystallinum cross


It should also be said that even reputable aroid nurseries can make mistakes in identification. I have a huge growing Anthurium that I bought 15 years ago from a very reputable aroid collector who believed it was a straight species plant, but as it matured it became evident that it is a hybrid. Its way cool though so I don;t mind. Since no one knows who actually crossed it or if it was a naturally occurring cross, I have named my particular specimen 'Anthurium Frilled Lizard' LOL. I believe it is a cross between Anthurium cupulispathum as the ovule (seed) plant and Anthurium pedatum as the pollen plant. A couple of research botanists I have asked think that this is the most likely cross to have produced this plant

Gena,
Thank you for all that info. I will see if I can find anything from Dr. Thomas Croat online.

The Anthurium you grow from seed is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing..

This photo of the seeding is your "Anthurium Frilled Lizard' Right? If it is it's a cool one. I hope to do well with my Anthurium. Fingers crossed. I do have a small outdoor greenhouse but it's to cold in the winter months to keep tropics in.

Found this from MOBOT thought I would share.

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=...

It's a PDF of the revised paper about anthurium from south America.

Oh no. That is one that is similar to Anthurium nervatum. The seeds came rom a plant I have that was supposed to be Anthurium pseudospectabile but was NOT. I have no idea what the cross is....the spadix just made seeds and I planted them LOL.

This is 'Frilled Lizard'. Leaves over 2 ft long. The overall shape is Cupulispathum, until you get the the serrated collar! That is telltale Pedatum

GreenBee01 said:Found this from MOBOT thought I would share.

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=...

It's a PDF of the revised paper about anthurium from south America.

Yes I have read this. But there is more in the works!

Gina1960 said:Oh no. That is one that is similar to Anthurium nervatum. The seeds came rom a plant I have that was supposed to be Anthurium pseudospectabile but was NOT. I have no idea what the cross is....the spadix just made seeds and I planted them LOL.

This is 'Frilled Lizard'. Leaves over 2 ft long. The overall shape is Cupulispathum, until you get the the serrated collar! That is telltale Pedatum

Wow, I see why you named it that. It's amazing.

Is that the goblin dragon baby all grown up?!

yep!

It's way bigger than I expected it to get. It looks great!

Its going to be a huge grower